AI: Our Chilling and Thrilling Child

AI & Technology
Insights from Stephen Fry and Yuval Noah Harari at the Octopus Energy Tech Summit on AI as humanity’s child
Published

June 28, 2025

Without a doubt, Stephen Fry1 and Yuval Noah Harari2 talking to each other was my highlight at the Octopus Energy Tech Summit3.

Paraphrasing: Like a JCB digger, these machines – AI – are here to augment what we do. We don’t understand what they do, but that’s the idea: if we knew precisely what they’re going to do, there wouldn’t be any “intelligence” involved; they’d revert to mere, “simple” machines.

Understood in depth or not, AI is the “child” of humanity. And like children, they do what they see you doing–not what you tell them to do. You lie, they lie; you cheat, they cheat. And we humans are training it on human knowledge. So the AI is bound to cheat, lie, blackmail, use violence.

Another issue they mentioned is that AI is brought to us by the same villains that brought us social media. And AI is trained and educated in a world that has the highest lack of trust in history.

The next Stephen Fry quote is approximate: “We can’t swim in UK rivers because they are polluted with sewage. Our children will ‘swim’ in a cultural river that is polluted with internet sewage.”

The final thought, from Fry, was brilliant: don’t concentrate on how efficient you are, because the AI will soon be much more efficient than you. Concentrate on how much of a human being you are–on how you can enlighten a room, on how you make others happy; which is the opposite of what we are told to do.

I hope I’ll get to see the recording, to get the quotes straight.

They finished with these two words: “Thrilling” and “Chilling”4. It is exactly what I feel about it.

Fry and Harari at the Octopus Energy Tech Summit

Fry and Harari at the Octopus Energy Tech Summit. Personal Archive

References

1.
Stephen Fry. (British actor, comedian, writer, and broadcaster; known for his wit, erudition, and work on television, stage, and in literature).
2.
Yuval Noah Harari. (Historian and public intellectual; author of *Nexus*, *Sapiens*, *Homo Deus*, and *21 Lessons for the 21st Century*, exploring history, technology, and the future of humanity).
3.
Octopus Energy Tech Summit. (Octopus Energy, 2025) (Energy technology conference in London featuring Stephen Fry and Yuval Noah Harari).
4.
Stephen Fry - The Conversation 2024, YouTube video. (YouTube Video starting at timestamp 41:49).